world’s leading robot scientist believes future robot society will make man more human.
OSAKA: The 49-year-old professor is a man fully booked. There are many who will hear him talk about his research and his robots.
During our visit on Intelligent Robotic Lab at the University of Osaka, we learn that he also holds a lecture at a conference in Switzerland.
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Robot Replica
Or, rather, it is his robot copy that puts the words in front of it intrigued auditorium on the other side of the world.
– He actually gets more invitations than I can even now, Ishiguro says, laughing.
the robot crazy Japan, he is something of a cult figure who moves home wins in both the entertainment industry, the arts scene and the research world.
Without a doubt, he says that we are already on the way out of the information society and into the robotic community.
– Soon we’ll see them everywhere. First, in hospitals, nursing homes, schools, malls, theaters and the like. And when we accepted the robots, we also have a market for them and then comes growth likely to explode.
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Pervasive change
Japan is first in this development. One explanation may be that the robots have long been a natural part of the Japanese popular culture.
Another may be understanding that the country needs new facilities to take care of their aging populations.
In 2007, the Japanese government promised to invest 200 billion over the next ten years to develop and prepare a robot society.
– What we envision is an equally pervasive social change when computers came in the 1980s, said Hiroshi Ishiguro.
He believes that we will soon learn to interact with robots of various kinds and with different characteristics, looks and functions.
They can be autonomous and independent, or remotely by an operator via the internet. It can be traditional robots, model of Auto Matias or more human-like androids called.
And Ishiguro own favorites, geminoidene, which is almost identical copies of live, real people.
– The reason I make robots human-like, is that the human brain is designed to recognize and interact with other people. It is simply easier for a person to communicate with a human-like robot than with one that looks like a machine.
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Works: Nao is a French produced robot that is designed to interact with people. Photo: Michael Stenberg
Humanoid
human-like robots come, according to Ishiguro, initially to act as surrogate and as well as teachers, guides, machine operators, nurses and many others.
But his strongest driving force is something other than watching robots trudge around town.
He will first and foremost understand what a human being is based on the knowledge and build the perfect human custom robot.
– When you try to copy a man in traditional ingeniørvis, it is not a human movement, it becomes robotic movements. So I go the other way and try to really understand how a man acts. How the human brain controls our body. And then I try to implement such a mechanism in the robot. Only then can the robot be properly like a man.
Exactly how like a man a robot should be, according to Ishiguro depends on the situation and application.
– If we want a simple, everyday conversation, so we prefer probably a robot that looks pretty much like a human. If we want to buy a ticket at a station, it runs just fine with a robot that looks like a robot.
doppelganger
goal is to design systems that work like the human brain. Ishiguro calls it “the future of engineering.”
To get there as fast as possible, he collaborates including with neuroscientists and psychologists. Together studying the human phenomenon emotions, conscious and unconscious gestures and mines, eye movements and muscle behavior.
– We compare all the time our Androids and geminoider with real people. How can we test the different theories ours.
Ishiguro doppelgänger robots have become world famous for its striking resemblance to living individuals. They breathe, move, gestures, winks, looks around, senses where you are in the room and talking with you.
His first geminoid was a copy of his then four-year daughter. In 2006, he even looks like double thread with Geminoid HI-1, today upgraded to Geminoid HI-2.
In 2009 he presented the female Geminoid F. She was first thought of as a secretary, but changed unexpectedly career when she got a starring role in the play “Sayonara”.
She was followed by a singer who has become the idol in Japan with its own Twitter account and thousands of followers.
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Daughter Copy: Some early Ishiguro robots. One of them Repliee R1 which is a replica of his own daughter as four years old.
Extremely like a man
Hiroshi Ishiguro latest model is a copy of the 87-year-old legendary Japanese Rakugo or storyteller Katsura Beicho. He is a national saint, a kind Rolf Wesenlund in kimono, which began to feel themselves too old to still be on stage.
to save their stories and tells his style, he started a collaboration with Ishiguro.
So far the narrative geminoiden not shown publicly, but we’ll see him in a separate laboratorierom with Ishiguro Assistant Professor Yutaka Nakamura.
– Look at him. He is our last, says Nakamura and press the start button.
The old Rakugo sitting on a cushion in said position and look at us with kind eyes.
We go up to him and touch his soft, old skin, feeling the hair and hands and turns of how extremely like he is a real man.
And suddenly he starts to tell a story for us. One is forced to think extra for to know that it actually is a machine that sits there.
– we had been able to show a film or placing a tape recorder on stage and played by his story, but it would not at all have the same effect on the audience. Robot narrator looks, mines and gestures is essential for the experience, says Nakamura.
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As
toys
returns easy dazed to Hiroshi Ishiguro and ask him if there is still some major issues to resolve before the perfect geminoiden be introduced to a wider market.
– The sense of smell is still difficult to imitate. Taste and physical sensation we start to get good at, and the sight is almost perfect. Hearing sense is the most problematic. If a person is alone and talking to a robot in a closed room, no problems. But once outside noise intrudes on, not the usual voice recognition software. In a crowd, it is impossible for a robot to distinguish your voice.
He shows us a little bit easier and cheaper robot model of a type that exist or will soon exist on the consumer.
Telenoid resembles a simple doll. It is already used to the company of Japanese and Danish retirement. It is a soft toy that is unlikely to arouse anyone’s fears of a future robot society.
Ishiguro is well aware that such fears are, but he believes that it is excessive.
– If you are intimidated by computers, so you are scared of robots. It is important to know that the robot has a button that you can shut it off with, just like the computer, he said.
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Blanket Robot: Ishiguro assistant professor Yotaka Nakamura shows off robot Telenoid R1. Photo: Michael Stenberg
Enjoy life
We wonder whether fear may originate in the robots take our jobs away from us. Ishiguro shakes his head.
– Once upon a time, we performed a lot of very heavy and dangerous jobs. Now, machines them instead, and soon the robots’ trip. People will be able to devote their time to other, more human-friendly jobs and maybe even get time to enjoy life. Is that wrong?
While pondering that question, we leave Ishiguro robot laboratory and takes high-speed train Shinkansen to Tokyo and Emerging Science Museum.
Outside the wire a flag with the inscription Human Robot Interaction Conference in 2013 in the wind.
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Robot Society
the annual international conference participates leading researchers to discuss the ethical, psychological and social issues in the interaction between robots and humans.
Such as: How hard should a robot holding in a human hand? Is it foul of robots to index? Is there a limit to how like a man a robot can be?
And last but not least: When the robot society reality?
– I think that the changes come very quickly. Suddenly we are just there – maybe about 10-15 years. Therefore it is extremely important that we have a good time developing a healthy, humane and stable form of interaction between humans and robots, says Peter Kahn.
He is a psychology professor at the University of Washington in Seattle and director of Human Interaction with Nature and Technological Systems Laboratory in the same city.
Research His focus is ethical questions surrounding the human relationship to nature and technology.
– It pays to keep the vision in place in time, so that it is driving technique rather than the opposite. Otherwise trend to dominate and driven by large companies who are only interested in luring us to increased consumption, he said.
Today, it costs between five and ten million dollars to produce a research robot that can make the most of what you want. Nothing for the average consumer, that is.
But when more advanced robots begin to be sold on the consumer market, prices will fall.
Peter Kahn is convinced that the right shaped robots can help to improve human welfare, to develop our creativity and our social relationships. But there is a trend in robot technology that worries him.
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Helper
– In the United States right now expends enormous amount of switching from traditional warfare to robotic warfare. It will make it easier and more grisly killing, because it distances us from annihilation. We need not go that way, he says.
Other conference participants did not seem as concerned about the development.
– I see more robots as helpers and teammates, says Professor Joshua Peschel at the University of Illinois.
He works with small airborne robots that make missions in hard to reach areas – such as in tropical rain forests.
Stephanie Rosenthal works at Bossa Nova Robotics, USA. The firm is developing robots that can assist people in everyday life.
– Next year we release Mobi on the consumer. It should be able to carry heavy things in your home, show the way to the products that you are interested in a trade magazine and guide you the right way at an airport in a foreign country.
Unlike Hiroshi Ishiguro geminoider has not Mobi many similarities to human. The head is a computer screen, the body a box full of mechanics and instead of legs it has a spherical wheel.
Before Stephanie Rosenthal manages to show us what her robot can do, we have to chase off to the next lecture. A research team from Missouri to tell about why robots are so much better than people to interrogate victims.
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